1/7 PBE Update: Thresh!

Posted on at 6:08 PM by Moobeat
The PBE has been updated to include a chain wielding, ghoulish champion by the name of THRESH, THE CHAIN WARDEN!
Continue reading for a closer look at Thresh, another update to the HP values of the jungle minions, a new VO for an upcoming Kayle skin, a boatload of balance changes, and more.

( Warning: PBE content is highly tentative and subject to change! Some of this information may have been datamined and could likely be erroneous. )

New Champion: Thresh The Chain Warden  
Say hello to Thresh, our next champion! According to CertainlyT's PBE introduction, Thresh's ideal roles are support, jungler, and even top lane! Keep on scrollin' and check out this soul stealing bad boy for yourself.

Model viewer shot is pretty bad, he has lots of glow particles and a lantern attached to one of his chains.

Concept art

Abilities:
( Passive ) Keeper of Souls
Thresh collects the souls of dead enemies by walking near. Souls permanently grant Armor, Magic Resistance, and ability power.

Champions and large minions always drop a harvestable soul. Small minions only sometimes drop a soul.

Thresh does not gain armor and magic resistance per level.
Values are tentative but atm they give 1.00, .99, .98 etc per soul. It stops lowering at .5. Reportedly caps at 137.75 total stats and 255 stacks. EDIT: CertainlyT confirmed it will stack indefinitely.

( Q ) Shackle
 Passive: Deal 0.5 AD magic damage on each hit that builds up when not attacking.
This value is equal to total souls collected plus up to 80/110/140/170/200% of attack damage, based on the amount of time since his last attack.

Active: Grab an enemy, then pull them to you or leap to them.
Throws out his scythe, dealing 80/110/140/170/200(+0.5 AP) magic damage to the first unit hit and pulling them toward him for 1.5 seconds.

Reactivate this ability to pull Thresh to the bound enemy.
Cooldown: 18/16.5/15/13.5/12 seconds.
Mana cost: 80
( W ) Lantern Toss
Create a shielding lantern that an ally can use to dash to you.
Throw the Lantern to a point. If an ally near the Lantern clicks it, they pick it up and Thresh pulls both back to him.

Additionally, allies who come near it gain a shield lasting 6 seconds that absorbs up to 60/100/140/180/220(+0.4 AP) damage. Allies can only receive the shield once per cast.
Cooldown: 22/20.5/19/17.5/16
Mana cost: 40
( E ) Sweep 
Knock nearby enemies in the direction of your choice.
Deals 65/100/135/170/205 (+0.4 AP) magic damage in a line beginning behind him. Enemies hit are pushed in the direction of the swing, then slowed by20/25/30/35/40% for 1.5 seconds.

Cast forward to push; cast backward to pull.
Cooldown: 9 seconds
Mana Cost: 60/65/70/75/80
( R ) The Box
Trap enamies inside walls that slow and deal damage if broken.
Creates a prison of spectral walls around himself. Enemy Champions who walk through a wall suffer 250/400/450* (+1.0 AP) magic damage and are slowed by 99/50% for 2 seconds, but break that wall.

Once one wall is broken, remaining walls deal half damage and slow duration.
Cooldown :150/140/130
Mana Cost : 100
* This is a tooltip error damage is reporting in at 550.
Here is a video of his abilties and animations ( which seem a little incomplete / buggy ):


Lore: "Thresh is a twisted reaper whose hungry chains ensnare the souls of the living. A moment's hesitation at the sight of his ghostly visage and there is no escape. He leaves in his wake hollow corpses, their souls ripped loose and trapped in the sickly green light of his lantern. The Chain Warden takes sadistic joy in tormenting his victims, both before and after their deaths. His grim task is never complete, and he stalks the land for ever more resolute spirits to unravel.

Thresh carves careful, deliberate paths through Valoran. He handpicks his targets individually, devoting his full attention to each soul in turn. He isolates and toys with them, gradually eroding their sanity with his twisted, maddening humor. Once Thresh takes an interest in a soul, he does not relent until he possesses it. He then drags those he captures back to the Shadow Isles for an unimaginably dreadful fate. This is his only purpose.

Little is known about the Chain Warden's past, and many of the details live only in nursery rhymes and campfire tales. They tell of a sadistic jailer from centuries past who took great delight in torturing his wards. Patient and brutal, he used a variety of methods to break his victims' minds before their bodies succumbed to his grisly designs. Chains were the jailer's preferred instruments of terror. Their shrill scrape marked his dreadful approach and promised agony to those he visited. His dark reign went unchallenged until his prisoners escaped during a massive riot. They overwhelmed him, and without ceremony or remorse, hanged him from his own chains. Thus began the unlife of the horrible specter known as Thresh, or so the tales go.

Thresh now haunts the land, leaving an aftermath of horror and despair. However, there is a devious purpose behind his dark machinations, and the meager spirits of average men are insufficient. He seeks stronger souls. Only when he has broken the wills of Valoran's most resilient warriors will he finally have what he needs.

There are few things as invigorating as taking a mind apart, piece by piece. "




More Changes to the HP of Jungle Minions:
Continue the trended from the last few PBE patches, the jungle monsters have been nerfed again. Here are the changes relative to the last PBE patch:

  • Small Lizards HP increased to 303 from 203.
  • Big Wolf HP increased to 1100 from 1000.
  • Big Golem HP increased to 1200 from 1100.

...and here they are again relative to live values:

  • Big Wraith HP increased to 900 from 750.
  • Small Wraiths HP reduced to 150 from 250
  • Small Wolves HP reduced to 200 from 300 
  • Big Wolf hp HP increased to 1100 from 900
  • Small Lizards at Red Buff HP unchanged.
  • Small Lizards at Blue Buff HP unchanged.
  • Small Golem at Double Golems HP reduced to 300 from 500
  • Big Golem at Double Golems HP increased to 1200 from 1000.

"Metal Winged" Kayle
While there is no splash, model, or other indication, an interesting new voice over for a "Metal Winged" Kayle ( this is not the finished name, it will change ) skin popped up in this patch. While it isn't a certainty, this voice over has several new lines of dialogue and is probably going to be legendary.



Particle for Twisted Fate's Ult Increased
The eyeball particle that pops up above enemies when Twisted Fate ults has been significantly increased in size.
Here is a shoddy comparison between live and the PBE.


Balance Changes:
Note: These values and changes are relative to the values found in the last PBE update.

Champions:
Amumu
  • Ultimate now "Prevents attacks and movements" instead of only rooting ( This is relative to changes from the last PBE patch )

Riven
  • Base health regen increased to 5.5 from 4.5

Ryze
  • Overload ( Q ) - Maximum mana scaling reduced to 5.5% from 6%.
  • Overload ( Q ) - Mana cost reduced to 60 at all levels from 60/65/70/75/80.

  • Rune Prison ( W ) - Maximum Mana scaling increased 5% from 4.5%

  • Spell Flux ( E ) - AP Ratio increased to .4 AP from .35 AP


Items:
Grez's Spectral Lantern
  • Attack Damage decreased to 20 from 25.

Hextech Sweeper
  • Unique Passive: Trap Detection Nearby stealthed enemy trap are revealed.

Last Whisper
  • Cost increased to 2400 gold from 2135 gold.*

 *Tooltip has not been updated but this change is currently live on the PBE. Tested and confirmed.






Bug Fixes
According to Riot Reinboom, there were also a number of item shop bug fixes pushed in this patch!
"Hi PBEers!
With this latest push to the PBE, numerous fixes to the item shop were included.
I'd like to request a lookout for any bugs relating to:
* Items being active as though you could purchase them, even though you could not.
* Long duration lag while opening the shop, closing the shop, using the search bar, or purchasing an item.
* Your inventory in the item shop does not match your actual inventory for any significant portion of time.

If you experience any of the above, could you post your general inventory state and gold amount you had at that time, as well as a brief description of what you were doing before you reached that state.


If you find any other bugs relating to the item shop, I also encourage you to post those as well.
Thanks!"


Miss out on the previous updates in this PBE cycle? Fear not!

372 comments

  1. DAMN your fast

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  2. leona like support

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  3. yay new champ finally

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  4. If this is a Yordle, take my money!

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  5. Can't wait to see what he looks like.

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  6. He's the Thresh Prince of Bel-Air.

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  7. I'm travelling without LoL : PBE update

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  8. Trash. It's like trundle's partner

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  9. I hope he's not underpowered on release. Everyone will call him "Trash".

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  10. Interesting. Something like fiddle?

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  11. So... is this the new male support?

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  12. Just look at his kit on reign of gaming and he's a support from the look of it since his ratio's are low but he could be a mid

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  13. Haters gonna Hate

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  14. Shadow Isle? Cool.

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  15. FUCKING LOVE WEAPONS MIXED WITH CHAINS!!!

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  16. DANG IT

    I was going to write that joke...

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  17. Cool, I cant log in PBE ;-;

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  18. In before pudge clone

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  19. I find it most upsetting that none of the last few champions' lores describes why they joined the League of Legends. I remember most of the other champions do and they make much more sense than the new ones. In this case the reason is pretty obvious, he wants the souls of the most powerful warriors, but for example, in Elise's case, there is nor eason at all... same for Syndra, Zed, and the rest.

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  20. First Look: http://i.imgur.com/f1qb1.jpg

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  21. Hey moo, this link might help you with PBE and some news about thresh http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/22798-unoffical-pbe-patch-notes-new-champion-thresh
    it is unofficial, but will give you the gist of things

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  22. He is search for stronger souls. One can guess he joined because of the champions themselves.

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  23. Weren't there files for Thresh in a leaked PBE update a long time ago?

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  24. His passive seems like it's going to be something like trundles

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  25. If he will be support gonna insta buy him :D something other than Taric that is a male too ! :D

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  26. I'm seeing some Karma LoadScreen files showing up during the update.

    KARMA UPDATE NAO?

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  27. His wapeon seems interesting.

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  28. OP wapeon indeed

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  29. some of the past champs do make sense why they joined, if you read zeds lore it's pretty obvious he joined so he could fight shen and continue their rivalry. As for elise and syndra and some others i have no idea

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  30. i agree. the only "manly" support we have is Alistar and he's not even a man :D

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  31. Nah his ratio are really terrible and his ult is unreliable for dmg output. Think he's just made for support because there are better mid than him. Could still be surprised but still.

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  32. He doesn't look like a Yordle to me... keep your money.

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  33. After the awkward ass death noises Kayle's voice over started to sound as if I was watching a porno...

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  34. Such an ugly champion, Riot is having a lack of good ideas.

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  35. Wait until we see it with particles.

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  36. I was thinking about a skill like that ages ago , but i was if a champion can pull ally to him ,some people may troll kill their ally , and here riot found a good way to do this.

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  37. Wow, it does indeed look amazing!


    What happens if you break the fourth wall, though?

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  38. Kayle, turn the fan on. We can hear you taking a huge shit.

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  39. Yup pretty much this :P This one even if looking like skeleton (when they add glowing head particle like in conceprt art he will look like Ghost Rider) except head look like a human male.

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  40. lol nice, was hoping for a kusarigama-wielding champion for quite a while. Finally they did it!

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  41. Just wait. riot just revealed him...

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  42. DAMN IT !!! NO Draven skin ?! D:

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  43. He is classified as ranged, able to use runaans.

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  44. just look below I posted his skillset, looks pretty neat

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  45. and WHERE THE FUCK IS SPIRIT SUMMONER UDYR

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  46. That was part of the grand plan.

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  47. Well I know what my birthday money is going towards.

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  48. Can confirm this post. I'm on PBE with him right now.

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  49. Cool Hecarim without half horse gg

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  50. Yeah, I saw it, and it's amazing.

    Weird thing is, it's A LOT like a champion concept I was going to put on the LoL forums... scary ._.

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  51. then you should be happy :P

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  52. Yeah i noticed that too, there was bunch of karma files.

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  53. Haven't you heard? Udyr is a yordle now.

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  54. No, because Thresh can only pull back an ally IF the ally picks up the lantern lol. Otherwise it just gives a shield

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  55. well that's what he said :P "and here riot found a good way to do this" imo means you can't troll

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  56. NOW EVERYONE WILL BE LEE SIN.

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  57. Trash, wtf is this name... everyone asking for a name started by Q and they make this one called Trash

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  58. everyone will refer Tresh players as Trash players, riot has shit on their head most likely

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  59. Sorry didn't finish my sentence and post i meant and here riot found a good way to do this the right way (no troll can abuse it)

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  60. Brad Pitt: What's in the box? Thresh whats in the box?
    Morgan Freeman: If you kill him then he will win.

    Se7en box scene:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1giVzxyoclE

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  61. He attacks as ranged, but throwing his scythe-chain to the champion; it's not a particle O_O And even switchs to a melee-looking attack when enemy champion is near enough.


    INSTA-BUY!

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  62. So Kayle ... legendary ... or the next 3250 theme set skin? that's a lot of new voiceovers ...

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  63. Had you ever heard of ahri's death noises?!

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  64. Kayle's voice sounds like Mother Gothel from Tangeld o.o

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  65. people will troll with him.. pulling people away from kills just to ks..

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  66. Thresh does not armor and magic resistance per level. i think you forgot a "gain"

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  67. brilliant plan

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  68. mind = blown

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  69. They read your mind ahead of time
    They thought it a dandy idea

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  70. They have to click the lantern to get pulled.
    Otherwise, they only gain a shield.

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  71. Funny thing is that he's considered as "support" and "melee" while his range is greater than Renek's.

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  72. 3 things i think needs checking
    1st how long do souls last if he didn't pick them up
    2nd must he participate in the kill for souls to drop (kill/assist or last hit or do the souls just spawn)
    3rd can u take an enemy Thresh souls? like with Draven's axes?
    someone with a pbe acc pls answer

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  73. 2nd Nvm, his passive works like trundles... i can see him getting a few nerfs.

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  74. I wonder if the 3v3 alters got new lines for thresh

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  75. I begin my Videogame Design studies this year. I have to be good at this ;P

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  76. Wait. I checked and he is listed as being a "tank". Moreover being a "melee" "support", he's also tagged to "tank"? Okay, he can support with his awesome lantern (gives escape & shield), he can have massive defensive stats thanks to his passive, but, wtf? "Tank"? He's not even listed as a "Mage" but has 4 AP Ratios!

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  77. I think that was a joke about dimensions....

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  78. His ratios aren't that high and his cooldowns too long for a caster. Also he gains nice def-stats through his passive. Tank/Support/Jungler should be his best role in this meta. Runaan's is pretty funny though, because of the passive on his Q ;D

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  79. t'H'rash, Thrash as in thrashing about...

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  80. buff ryze wth lol. On other news I liking the sound of this Kayle skin make me wanna play her a little more. Why not leave amumu ult a root? lol so Riot can respond to amumu players but just straight up nerf other champs lol

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  81. Syndra joined so she could unleash her full potential, because League of Legends embraces great power instead of denying it.. i thought it was madre clear in her lore

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  82. He is melee so no runaans wont be funny.

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  83. Loving Thresh's kit, but I kinda wish his ult had a better name, like Threshold or something. But that's just me.

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  84. What? why would it be anything like him.

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  85. SO FROM TESTING: as of now, his max passive stacks give him 140 armor, magic resistance, and ability power. he doesn't even need to kill units to get souls. they just have to die near him. he's gonna get nerfed so hard lol

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  86. He is Zed's shadow seeking revenge after Zed beat him in paper, scissors, rock :OO

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  87. Atlast a new Kayle skin. X fingers for Legendary.

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  88. seems so. he can scale without killing minions and is all cc

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  89. So Thresh and so clean!

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  90. Is Diana getting buffed this patch?

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  91. Nope he's not. 475 range and Runaan's works on him, including passive. Already tested on PBE.

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  92. Does the Q go through terrain?

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  93. Battlecast Kayle..? Listening to the soundtrack, it reminds me of the battlecast motto: become robot or die.

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  94. And what am i supposed to say if this is a mix of two my ideas? One was even sent to Moobeat as a contest entry (heavy cc mage operating with souls) and 2nd, incomplete undead support, for which "life is only a currency" (two skills^^).


    This situation prooves that we need Thresh :)

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  95. Dire champion played as support with kinda heavy cc,?

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  96. I tought Thresh would come after Lissandra, well no.

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  97. With that many new sounds, it truly seems like it will be Legendary :)

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  98. Leona has 4 AP Ratios and isn't listed as a mage :D

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  99. So 140 was the max you could get too? Have a screen shot by chance?

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  100. Summoner, Vilemaw ordered me to enter the League in search for his food of course, you know different types os life beings are simply delicious.
    Sure i just could deceive them and guide them to the Shadow Isles but (only Le Blanc knows how to deceive pretty well) some beings are not so easy to be preyed. So i need to annihilate them and take their bodies to my god.

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  101. Metal Wing Kayle skin reference to the recent Rush album Clockwork Angels? Hmmmm

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  102. Ugly =/= bad idea.

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  103. I really want a new AD Carry. :-(

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  104. Pretty sure it's about theater. The "4th wall" is a reference to the "wall" between the actors and the audience. It's the "wall" that the audience views the performance through.

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  105. the way his model looks and how he is, the left arm toward and the right back, reminds me of draven, anyone? i mean the position of the parts of the body

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  106. His Passive Stacks up to 255, but its a hell lot of time until he reaches that limit

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  107. Right now, Tresh can have a maximum of 255 souls, which give him 140.25 Stats, tried it in a Custom.

    You can't get more than that. I don't know why they made it an uneven number, but well. That Passive seems pretty broken, but it needs alot of time to get that big. I had more than 500 farm in that game.

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  108. Because they're using a variable with exactly 8Bit size -> 2^8 = 256. But since he can also have 0 souls, you start at 0 and end at 255.

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  109. To be a bit more precise: Initial pull grabs through terrain, but doesn't pull through terrain (jungle mobs for example are stuck at the wall for the duration). But pressing Q again to move to your target allows yourself to move through terrain.

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  110. They still could have made the souldstacking end at 100 or 200 or even 250 souls though, even if it would waste some space. That would have been even numbers I wouldn't have been surprised at.

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  111. Thresh looks awesome...

    that atk range is massive on a melee though, and though skills...

    I was thinking of an ult that worked like that too, reminded me of Tia from Zatch Bell...

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  112. Thresh looks amazing. That auto attack range is massive on a melee...
    His skills looks really fun too, he looks like he can cover any position that's not adc really...
    I like his ult too. I thought of an ult similar to that because i thought of Tia from Zatch Bell...
    It's like riot knows...

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  113. amumu became op again.

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  114. Mundo thinks that sissy rotting hook man from Defence of Ancients could do this!

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  115. He's like a mix between Ghost Rider and Dr. Doom

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  116. Why is everybody so happy, his kit is more toxic than Blitzcrank's xD
    Don't get me wrong, i love Blitz, but people wanna see him nerfed into oblivion.

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  117. Is he the new support guy? Because he looks like a good support.

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  118. kaan faruk yıldızJanuary 7, 2013 at 11:44 PM

    Does he have any interactions with TT relics like other Shadow Isles champs

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  119. Increasing Riven's laning power even more, no, just no...

    Also, I don't see why did they increase the cost of LW by 265...

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  120. i am excite for dark harvester viktor is next on the list of skins

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  121. Yup, that. :)

    To be clear, it doesn't just apply to theatre, it's the 'wall' between any fiction and the audience. 'Breaking' said wall is when fictional characters (or situation, etc.) acknowledge that the audience exists. Often done humorously.


    Interestingly enough, and this wasn't my intent (I was just posting a stupid joke that popped into my head, at the mention of breakable walls!), League of Legends does break the fourth wall all the time, in a manner of speaking. Although it's explained by us being 'Summoners,' many of the champions talk directly to us, the players. It's backed up by lore, but it's still video game characters talking to us real people. :)



    "Only you can hear me, Summoner," for example.

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  122. @Kubura


    Yeah, but I was talking about the fourth one, not the fifth one, wasn't I? ;D

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  123. Anything on Diana?

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  124. Why does kayles jokes sound likes shes orgasming
    ...

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  125. It's still beta. Don't expect this to be the exact number being pushed to live servers. I just gave you an explanation why it is 255 and not 260 or 250 right now ;)

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  126. All walls up. Touching one: applies full dmg and slow.
    Touching second: half dmg, half slow of first wall.
    Touching third: same as second.
    Touching fourth: same as second.
    Touching fifth: same as second.


    But i'm not yet sure about dmg applied to multiple ppl inside one wall. Since it actually triggers instantly when cast and someone is on a wall position, like Veigar's Event Horizon.

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  127. yes good. (Whether it was actually a Homestuck reference or not)

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  128. I was referring to design, the comment was made before his textures were posted.

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  129. I'm still going to try him mid, his base values aren't too bad, and his ult has high ap scaling, so if you build a standard pen build on him you'd be able to output respectable damage.

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  130. Kayle's laugh is almost the same as soraka's laugh!

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  131. You know that they nerfed her already in the last PBE patch ? Now it's: Base health regen decreased to 5.5 (this patch) from 9.5 (LIVE)

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  132. what about trapping enemies in "the box" and smashing them into the walls with xin zhaos ultimate?
    will all enemies get the full dmg of the box?

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  133. There's a lot of ugly champions, but you can't compare Dr Mundo for example (model, splash art, detail, concept, everything fits) to this new champ, Riot is releasing champions even if they're not that good and they look like unfinished projects.

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  134. what about trapping enemies in "the box" and smashing them into the walls with xin zhaos ultimate?
    will all enemies get the full dmg of the box?

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  135. @twitter-326465152:disqus



    I was just making a joke, as I've explained. I'm well aware of what he does. I just like that he has multiple walls, that can break. Cause you can literally, yup, break the fourth wall.

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  136. I think "Box" is more fitting since he is a warden and this makes "Box" is a prison.( I think i just broke my grammar)

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  137. I wish to become available the new champion he looks so op.Is he attack damage or ability power champion

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  138. So gotta play Soul Reaver Draven bot with Thresh. ALL YOUR SOULS ARE MINE.

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  139. Two supports back to back. It's going to be a looooooong wait until the next one. ^_^

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  140. Pretty interesting abilities and mechanics, but so low damage and AP scaling. Huh, sadly, but he is stillborn.

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  141. So, you too read Spawn.

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  142. When will Vi´s Q bugs fixed, they´re annoying, by the way, yesterday Vayne stopped my Vi´s Ult with E, I don´t know if that is actually normal cause I thought it couldn´t be stopped

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  143. YES! Finally a champ i will love for my favourite position and a homestuck reference :) my lucky day!!!

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  144. Zed's was explained, he is hunting shen for his own sick manner, Syndra joined to get away from the people who wanted to contain her and found the league in which she could let out as much power as she wanted without constraint.

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  145. Maybe supports doesn't need damage and ap scaling? I'm very excited about Thresh.

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  146. Taking ones soul can be quite euphoric, honestly.

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  147. Thresh's pull is really slow and has a slight delay/warmup before he throws it out, and his other pull is more for the small pop up.

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  148. They don't say about his origin place, but I assume he's from Shadow Isles... I hope he is.

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  149. He's not melee, it is a ranged attack.

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  150. i think you forgot to add they put little indicators on maps for ward placements and now when people recall they have a shinning circle around their portrait on the minimap

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  151. Buggy as hell. 8 bugsplats in one match, 8!! Learn to code your sh*t riot.

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  152. He may not be actually from there, but the lore confirms he is "for" the Shadow Isles so he will probably get Altar audio.

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  153. Hey look at that, he is on the PBE. I wonder why.

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  154. I think it's probably because of the passive. A well farmed passive gives some nice ap, if the ratios were higher he might have been more to the op side.

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  155. I can see alot of trolling with his W already....

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