12/20 PBE Update: Lots of Balance Changes

Posted on at 5:51 PM by Moobeat
 12/23 Update: Added in somethings I missed such as the new teleport color, pickpocket mastery buff, and attack range indicator.

The PBE has been updated! While there might not be any fancy champions or skins, there is a TON of balance updates!
Continue reading to catch a peek the the tentative set of balance changes Riot is currently testing on the PBE, including nerfs for Evelynn, Talon, Ryze, and Riven, buffs for Rengar and Diana, and more! Additionally, check out the nerf to small jungle creeps, new auto attack range indicator, a new buff showing pickpocket's cool down and total gold earned, color for teleport, and an update on some features, from the Vi patch, that didn't make it to live.

( Remember: Anything on the PBE is TENTATIVE and subject to change; they call it a the Public BETA Environment for a reason. Additionally, some PBE info is datamined and may be incomplete.)

Lowered HP on Small Jungle Creeps
The HP values of the smaller jungle creeps has been reduced quite significantly.
  • Small Wraiths  reduced to 150 from 250
  • Small Wolves reduced to 150 from 300
  • Small Lizards at Red Buff reduced to 153 from 303
  • Small Lizards at Blue Buff reduced to 153 from 303.
  • Small Golem at Double Golems reduced to 200 from 500
Balance Changes:
Loads and Loads of balance changes were pushed in this PBE patch, including the promised tweaks to Diana and Rengar, quite a bit of Dominion/TT item meddling, and more. Tons of  tool tips were reworded and cleaned up as well.

Champions
Alistar
  • Base Movement Speed increased to 330 from 325
Annie
    • Disintegrate mana cost lowered to 60/65/70/75/80 from 60/70/80/90/100.
    • Molten Shield duration reduced to 6 seconds from 8 seconds.
    • Molten Shield cooldown lowered to 10 seconds from 16.
      Diana
      • Lunar Rush range increased to 825 from 750.
      • Pale Cascade damage increased to 20/35/50/65/80 from 20/34/48/62/76
      • Pale Cascade duration increased to 5 seconds from 4 seconds
      Evelynn
      • Health reduced to 462 ( +82 per level ) from 470 ( +90 per level )
      • Hate Spike Ratios reduced to .4 AP and .4 AD from .45 AP and .45 AD.
      • Ravage's base damage lowered to 35/55/75/95/115 from 35/60/85/110/135
      Nami
      • Base Movement Speed increased to 335 from 330'
      • Aqua Prison's cooldown reduced to 14/13/12/11/10 from 16/14.5/13/11.5/10
      Rengar
      • Savagery's bonus attack speed duration increased to  4 seconds from 3 seconds.
      • Battle Roar now heals for ( 40 + 20 health per level ) instead of flat 10% of health
      • Rengar's stealth delay lowered to 1 second from 1.25
      Riven
      • Base Health regen per 5 seconds reduced to 4.5 from 9.5
      • Blade of Exile cooldown increased to 110/80/50 seconds from 75/60/45
      • Valor's shield absorb increased to 70/100/130/160/190 from 60/90/120/150/180
      Ryze
      • Overload's mana coefficient reduced to 6% from 6.5%.
      • Overload's mana cost increased to 60/65/70/75/80 from 60 at all ranks.
      Syndra
      • Transcendent now grants +75 Range to Unleashed Power at max rank.
      • Scatter the Weak cooldown decreased to 18/16.5/15/13.5/12
      Talon
      • Noxian Diplomacy's bleed damage reduced to 10/20/30/40/50 from 18/36/54/72/90
      • Shadow Assault's damage per hit reduced to 120/170/220 from 120/190/260
      Udyr
      • Turtle Stance shield amount increased to 60/100/140/180/220 from 60/95/130/165/200
      Items
      Archangel's Staff
      • Ability power increased to 60 from 50.
      • Now grants mana increase on auto attacks.
      Bone Tooth Necklace
      • Now Grants 5 flat AD in addition to the 2 AD per level.

      Black Cleaver
      • Passive increased to 7.5% armor reduction stacking 4 times from 6.25% stacking 4 times.

       Iceborn Gauntlet
      • Slow field duration decreased to 2 seconds from 3.
      • Slow is now reduced to 20% for Ranged Champions
      • Area of the slow field is now reduced for Ranged Champions.
      Manamune
      • Base Attack Damage increased to 20 from 10.
      Spirit of the Lizard Elder
      • Now grants 10% cooldown reduction.
      Spirit of the Spectral Wraith
      • Ability power increased to 50 from 40.

      Non SR items:

      Blackfire Torch
      • Cost increased to 3950 from 2950
      • Now builds out of Kage's Lucky Pick, Haunting Guise, and Fiendish Codex instead of only Kage's Lucky Pick and Haunting Guise.
      • Now grants 80 ability power up from 70 ability power
      • Now grants 10 Mana per 5 sec.
      • Now grants 20% cooldown reduction up from 10%.

      Sanguine Blade
      • Cost reduced to 2850 from 3150
      • Attack Damage increased to 65 from 60
      • Basic attacks now grant 6 AD up from 5
      • Max passive stacks decreased to 5 from 7.
      The Lightbringer ( now available on Twisted Treeline as well as Dominion )

      • Item cost increased to 2425
      • Builds out of Soulsight Lantern and Pick Axe
      • No longer grants attack speed
      • Attack Damage increased to 50 from 20
      • Now Grants 20 armor.
      • Now Grants 12% life steal.
      • New Unique passive - Vanquish:  Basic attacks have a 20% chance to deal 100 bonus magic damage ( damage doubled for non-champions )
      • New Unique active - A stealth detecting mist grants vision of the target area for 10 seconds ( 60 second cooldown )

      Wooglet's Witchcap
      • Now builds out of a Chain Vest and two Blasting Wands instead of  Chain Vest and a Needlessly Large Rod.
      • Cost reduced to 3500 from 3520
      • Armor reduced to 40 from 50

      Attack Ranges*
      Each champions attack range will now show when you hover over their Attack Damage stat in the portrait / stats area while in game.


      Pickpocket Mastery Buff**
      There is now a buff, on the buff bar above your ability bar, that shows up when your pickpocket mastery is on cool down and lets you know the total amount of gold you've earned in a game.



      New Colors for Teleport***
      Teleport has a new color set up. Green and Red for friendly and enemy or Blue and Orange if you are on colorblind mode.

      Friendly Teleport
      Friendly Teleport Colorblind Mode
      Enemy Teleport
      Enemy Teleport Colorblind Mode
       Note: Mini map indicator colors ( see below ) change based on Colorblind option or not.

      Previous PBE features that never made it to live.
      Both the Teleport, Recall, and Ward Minimap indicators that we first saw in the Vi PBE patch are still active on the PBE despite not being pushed to live in the last update.

      Teleporting has been made a blue ( or green if you have colorblind DISABLED ) color rather than an orange color.
      Enemy teleporting is Red ( or orange if colorblind mode is on )
      Recalling players show up on the mini map.
      Hostile players recalling show up in red.
      The Left icon represents a Sight Ward and the Right a Vision ward.
      Enemy wards show up on the mini map as well, as you c an see here I have a pink ward revealing the enemy's green ward.


      * = Credit to odellus on Reddit for pointing this one out
      ** = Credit to pabro on reddit for pointing this one out.

      * ** = Credit to EmKaY57 on reddit for pointing this one out.

      387 comments

      1. First! I am curious about the update on PBE lets seee!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      2. Wow, you post updates soo fast. LOVE S@20

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      3. This is not what I expected it to be.

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      4. I always shoot first.

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      5. Thats was a fast update

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      6. Spamming refresh button...

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      7. not if you overnerf a champ.....

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      8. I wonder what's about to come....
        Hope something VIolently fun, regarding balance.

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      9. Someone's mad they cant troll grab people over walls now :)

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      10. ooh, maybe it'll include the diana fixes to her "overnerf" that morello talked about!

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      11. i can't use flash with my ulti anymore:(btw hope they don't repeat the mistakes they did for being overzealous with nerfs like in the case of Diana or Rengar:)

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      12. *cough* Rengar.

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      13. For Piltover!

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      14. It's up on RoG now o_o

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      15. It got put on indefinite hold. they will redo it or release another lux skin in the meantime.

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      16. darius ulti's nerf pls...

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      17. Slow field duration decreased to 3 seconds from 2







        what

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      18. In the information about "Iceborn Gauntlet" you said "decreased from 3 to 2", it should be "to 2 from 3" :P Thanks for the info and the fast update!

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      19. Julio Cesar Thome BorgesDecember 20, 2012 at 7:11 PM

        Talon nerfs. I didn't thought i would live enough to see that.

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      20. There goes my Iceborn Gauntlet Ezreal...

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      21. Finally the cooldown is lowered

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      22. Nami move speed buff, i am happy.

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      23. Slow field duration decreased to 3 seconds from 2. What are you saying?

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      24. talon where are u? u cant let this happen to u!!

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      25. WTF did they do to riven?????

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      26. missed a riven nerf. Valor ratio changed from 1.0 to 0.4

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      27. that makes things worse....

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      28. THAT RIVEN NERF :''''''''( NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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      29. Why the fuck do they nerf Evelynn's bases and AD ratios?
        If they want to nerf AP evelynn, why dont they nerf her AP ratios? or make her Ravage and/or Hate Spike Physical damage?

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      30. Neither did I.

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      31. Need to Correct Spirit of the Spectral Wraith. It always gave 10% CDR, but it was a unique passive before.

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      32. Get a fucking grip Riot.... Buffing rengar, nerfing talon.. Way to go. What a fucking joke.

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      33. I feel bad for Riven.

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      34. Look, Karma got a new dress, and sharper fans!

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      35. and talon?

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      36. Wtf they did to evelyyn

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      37. I'm REALLY pissed about the Riven nerfs, gotta say. :/

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      38. What the fuuuuuck?! Why? This means Riven is WAY weaker than before. :/

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      39. Instead of buffing Talon lets nerf him YEAH! Good they are increasing blackfire torch sick of seeing the POS item.

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        1. Talon has one of the highest win rate, wtf are you talking about.

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      40. Both those obviously OP champs deserved what they got. I mean, look at how often Riven is played! She is clearly overpowered and I think they didn't go far enough.

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      41. My Riveeeeeeeeeeen!

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      42. avegantemosetheeaterofnipplesDecember 20, 2012 at 7:55 PM

        Nerfs on Talon and Riven... Yet buffs for Rengar.
        Rengar's heal got a huge buff. also way to go ruining Rivens early game and Talons late game even more...

        Riven is possibly worse now then when she was released...

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      43. they didn't really do much with riven just some cd on her ult

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      44. u mean -5 hp regen per 5 and a 10 second increase on her ult and then a stronger shield to compensate?

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        1. In other words :
          Riven's base health regen is halved.
          Riven's Lvl 1 ult cd reduced by 35 secs.
          But it's okay cause :
          Riven's valor shield increases by 10!

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      45. GOOD LORD, WHAT HAVE YOU DONE RIOT

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      46. hmm sorry about that false nerf than. Forums lied lol. Sorry for the scare

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      47. Iceborn creates an area on the ground. It's saying that it lasts 2 seconds now.

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      48. They nerfed Evelynn and Riven to hell... Something tells me that Riot just does not want Eve to be a viable mid for some reason.

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        1. That nerf on Riven is nothing , her DMg is the same so she is still very strong :D

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      49. I really REALLY don't understand Riot's thought process on nerfing Talon... not a happy assassin tonight :(

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        1. His win rate is the second highest currently.

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      50. +10 added to her shield... Riot honestly believes that this compensates for that huge punch in the face to her early game?

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      51. where did you hear that?

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      52. BFT now meaningless for no mana champs gg.

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      53. I feel sorry for me too :'(

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      54. health regen matters u know, and before this u could use ur ulti every minute, now until u are lvl 11/16 u wont be able to do the same

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      55. besides me i havent seen a riven in weeks, i think maybe 2 out of 70matches? LOL

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      56. its not that f*cking hard to fix darius instead of a ulti kill resetting the damn skill just have it reduce the CD by a few secs or half the time the fact he can rotate and kill an entire team because during a TF he can easily stack 5 hemorage with spamming his q in the middle of team fights its idiotic.... HOW HASNT THIS BEEN FIXED

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      57. they did nerf both ratios, and base damage

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      58. assholes ruined my already underpowered evelynn thanks very much.

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        1. Underpowered? I hope you are joking a good evelyn wins games solo

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      59. Guys honestly, riven's nerf is kinda a lot worse than Eve's nerf -.-
        Eve Q went down 0.05 ratio, how big can that be?
        Eve E late game reduces by 20, doesnt even matter cause u would alr have 300~ Ap at Lvl 13.
        Base health and scaling? That's so little man.

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      60. Talon nerf was unnecessary. At first the problem was that arpen was too good, now people have just learned him, discovered his nuances, and he has reached viability. This goes to show Riot is afraid of AD casters/assassins.

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      61. More like cutting her HP regen in half and adding 35 seconds to her ult cooldown, in exchange for a measly ten points in the shield at all levels.

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      62. moobeat, they also buffed Alistar W range

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      63. "stronger shield" lol, they only add it 10 points, that is 1 minion attack block or less

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      64. they reaaly nerfed rengar too, his W heal is laughtable now

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      65. I deal tons of damage, while dishing out tons of damage.

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      66. I play talon as a jungler.

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      67. I feel wonderfully happy for my friends Annie and Syndra.

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      68. The change on archangels is gonna hurt people like karthus and anivia, who before could just keep they're aoe abilities on =/

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      69. "While their might not be any"
        *there

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      70. I play friends as a jungler.

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      71. It's actually still on the PBE, it just doesn't have a splash, nor can you buy it, just check her page

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      72. Eve nerfs? really? was that needed?

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      73. Wooglet's Witchcap <3 And Diana Buff <3

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      74. Still up to a 3 sec delay on Rengar ult.... I love doing nothing for 7 secs....

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      75. At least her ranges nerfs are now viable to counter her mid game.

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      76. I think riot nerfed her because of the low cooldowns on her spells, also i think Phreak would say you can build Riven Tanky and deals TONS OF DAMAGE, like he said about Ahri..

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      77. not really

        some assumptions: lvl 9 ~1200 HP, lvl 13 ~1700 HP, lvl 16 ~2400 HP

        before: 120 HP, 170 HP, 240 HP

        now: 220 HP, 300 HP, 360 HP

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      78. Removal of Steel legion lux. thread on GD. sorry for typing, 1 handed, eating pizza lol

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      79. I don't like the riven nerfs at all lol that's just slap in the fix there was nothing wrong with her sometimes she already have a hard time in lane lol and her ult was the key to winning they just made her super weak

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      80. They dare to nerf me? Does my stabbing brings countless deaths in the League?

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      81. If you want to play with me you better be sure you know the game.

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      82. It's a nerf, no one is convinced.

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      83. SYNDRA BUFFS, YESSS. <3

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      84. i love you Elise. take me to a better place.

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      85. what are you fucking doing.....riven........

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      86. We really lost another blade

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      87. Any day Syndra is buffed is a day where I am happy.

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      88. Indeed, but jealous Syndra have 3 balls but I only have 1 D:

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      89. Immense power is fun! You should try it some time. Syndra buffs AWWW YEAAAH

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      90. tons of damage? u nerf my fcking TALON T.T.and no one said talon OP >:[

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      91. Talon nerf? realy? ....

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      92. Black cleaver buff? Rly Riot?

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      93. overnerfed for sure

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      94. ehh.... this guys nerfing Talon. Not the best idea.

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      95. AWWWWWYYYEEEAAAAAHHHHH Turtle buff :D

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      96. Ahem... Does the name "NotSarcasm" and Gene Wilder picture throw you off?

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      97. Yeah the heal is better now then it was per last nerf. Still... don't plan on using him much.

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      98. "Base Health regen per 5 seconds reduced to 4.5 from 9.5"
        Let's take a look at that. Her base health regen isn't even 1 per second. That's lower than your own, Elise.

        Also, it's hard to build Tank Riven and deal tons of damage at level one, don't you think? That's what all these nerfs are geared towards.

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      99. omg omg this is DEMACIAN plan to nerf NOXUS! Call Jeriko! Call Darius! WTF??

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      100. DAT RENGAR NERF!!! NO MORE 10% FLAT HP HEAL!!! DAFUQ IS RIOT THINKIN

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      101. Erm, in the screenshot Wooglet cost was reduced to 3,500, not 2,640.

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      102. He's had the highest winrate since s3 was released. It was needed.

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      103. That hp regen nerf feels a little ridiculous imo

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      104. This thread is an injustice.

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      105. Submit to my Designs.

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      106. lol you can build riven tanky and do tons of damage that is a lie your damage would weak and have a bunch of half hp people winning the game

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      107. Riven is broken as shit, but Talon, my Talon, why... :c

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      108. Everyone's a hero - till you shoot off a leg or two.

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      109. Well, his 57% win ratio might have something to do with that.

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      110. Why would they nerf Archangel's? No one buys it still...

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      111. I don't get why they're nerfing Riven's HP Regen... that's such a big nerf for her in the jungle, and she already kind of struggles to get out of the jungle early with any health.

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      112. Viktor is strong...If ppl dont play him, doesnt mean that he needs a buff.

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      113. OMG ! Why ?????
        Give back HP regen for my Riven PLS !
        Too big CD on ult on 1st lvl, change it to 90 sec instead of 110.
        Good she will recieve better shield.

        Talon nerf ? wtf ?
        He wasn't OP, but i've hope he will not be useless like Rengar is now.

        BAD INFOS FOR ME ;(

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      114. Where is pantheon nerf ?

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      115. Is this where I reply with a blade in the knee joke?

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      116. FUCKING BULLSHIT(sorry for that) but is IMPOSIBRUUUUU why nerfing talon and riven!!!!!! its stupidly anoying to see a Garen and Darius spining around and wrecking the fucking top lane and the fucking yorick is stupidly unkilable, i love Rengar got horribly nerfed, i love Renekton stupidly bad at late game, i fucking love talon and riven and they got nerfed wtf more and more time i start to hate the decisions from the staff.

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      117. I want faster animation on Q, then I am gonna be happy XD

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      118. Yeah lol they reduced her base health regeneration by 5 XD. It would be ok if it was like from 9.5---> 7.5 or 6.5 atleast. No info on why her ult cooldown was increased aswell XD.

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      119. But if i get buffed, then people will summon me.

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      120. "Classick and I are currently working on buffing Rengar back into a state where we feel more comfortable with his gameplay." made stealth delay 1 sec instead of 1.25 sec. What a buff bro.

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      121. Do not worry too much Lady Katarina , all those who cross me will be another body for the gutter

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      122. I do not need the help of Jericho Swain and the blood brothers , I only serve General Du Couteau , I do things by my self

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      123. ByeBye Riven we will miss you :'(
        (She had a 50% win rate so why nerf her so extremly?!
        now she will have a win rate like Diana or Karma 40%)

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      124. You haven't been around that long then.
        Though it has been some time since I've seen Talon nerfs...

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      125. My dad must be proud of you, wherever he is.

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      126. hey what does Syndra say when she have Unleashe Power at MAX Rank? Is it like "No one one that faces me will live" like that? ^_^

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      127. You know... buff Rengar... I wonder what sick Phreak thought that was a good idea. Oh wait... Anyway buffing Diana makes me wonder if the World really ends today.

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      128. And do +75 range on her ultimate good enough? I think it is. What do u think?

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      129. Im to powerfull not to get buffed. Buff me! Buff me!

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      130. as a talon main, i can say its ok that they nerfed the Q damage. it was a bit over the top. but atleast fucking buff his silence to 1.5 seconds ( cho has one that lasts for 3 second. but hey its just aoe... ) and do apply an autoattack after the cast so we can use Q - E like rengars Q on the jump.

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      131. The changes to armor penetration made him very strong and popular, and even people who are bad with him (like me) could carry with him.

        On the other hand, the Black Cleaver is back to 7.25%x4 again.

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      132. lol Talon ? Riven squishy as hell and get cc'd down late game plsssssssssssss

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      133. WHY DO YOU HATE EVELYNN SO MUCH RIOT!!?!!??! WHY????!?

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      134. I said Talon OP ^^
        Kassadin 2.0 with that, dash, silence, invisibility = kill under the tower.

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      135. Captain Teemo reporting for duty!

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      136. The end of the day draws near

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      137. Follow me to the Spider God Shrine summoner.

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      138. These chains cannot hold me.

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      139. I will summon you almost everygame.

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      140. Force is meaningless without skill...And you needed skill to play Talon since his mana/health regen nerfs way back. Not a huge fan of the nerf but they are fixing his damage amp on his E after it has been broken for so long. The true blade masters will be just fine.

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      141. they didnt actually nerf talon, they fixed his E since it wasnt giving you any damage bonus so it actually resulted in an overall buff

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      142. Thanks Lady Katarina , I will show these fools the taste of steel

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      143. Why nerf Riven dafuq
        No one touched her in competitive and I thought Riot is just gonna try to balance the competitive

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      144. Why riven bro why riven... why you touch her q.q

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      145. FIVE MOVEMENT SPEED Inscrease for Nami???
        Oh, that's awesome... ¬.¬' She is so damn slow!!!!!!!!!! And her damage is lower than a support damage ^^ They made her terrible to compensate for that range of the ult??

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      146. Shhh Kha'Zix you didnt even got touched...

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      147. This is stupid.
        I hate Diana and Rengar, the nerfs were needed to take a break from them in games. And it seems to me that the new meta Riot wants to impose in their game is the blink and kill. Is that the so-called aggresive playstyle they want to see in the game? And what with champions that don't have high mobility, they just get weaker and weaker because of this boring assassin thread.

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      148. when i was released i could ulti some1 then flash over a wall with him:))))

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      149. are they gonna nerf everyone whos overplayed. -.-

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      150. Yeah riot nerf ryze more...

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      151. Yessss. The range boost on Syndra's ult will be very nice. I played her the other day, she's got disgusting burst! :D

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      152. Yes, Diana got some of her Ult range back! (even if it isn't her old range, 825 is a LOT better than freaking 750. I can combo my Q->R again at long distance). That would make her feel a little better while keeping her a little nerfed from her older self. I hope there is not another hidden change for her...


        And talking about Riven, she needed that CD nerf to her ult (even i, as her fan, recognize it was a pretty short CD for the burst it gave her); but i'm not so sure about the health regen nerf. Maybe instead of 4.5 i would have give her 6 or 6.5. But i guess that the shield buff is precisely the thing needed to counter balance that nerf...

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      153. Why Riot Why? Annie, Diana? WTF is this riot? WHY? ¬¬'

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      154. Sweet! I've just received my free Riot Points!

        >> FreeRiotPoints.me <<

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      155. The diana entry is wrong, they didnt buff Lunar rush as it says, they buffed the crescent slash range

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      156. he was winning becouse of the black cleaver
        riot is nerfing the champions so they can justify that op item
        it means they are balancing the game around the black cleaver
        seriously this is just stupid (btw the black cleaver got "buffed")
        and i still don't see a darius nerf

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