Season 3 Itemization Preview [Updated]

Posted on at 11:22 AM by Moobeat
 Note: Bottom of the post has a lot of new information in it, including Xypherous recent post about the Brutilizer and the new Black Cleaver.

The first developer to step up and talk about his or her specific chunk of the preseason updates is none other than Xypherous discussing the upcoming item rework!
Continue reading for the overview and any accompanying red posts on the matter.
"Hey guys,

I’m Xypherous, a Technical Designer here at Riot Games. I’ve been working a bit on the goals for itemization changes as we head into the preseason, focusing mostly on specialization, player self-expression, and adding new gameplay patterns in the game. We wanted to fix a lot of the existing problems that players have with items and try to add more depth in terms of itemization. Let me go over the major goals we have for the preseason item changes:

Clean up / Reworks

We have some items that need a lot of love and some items that simply don’t have a place in the current framework in the game. We either made these items relevant for a specific purpose or removed them if they were too problematic to balance. Some super-niche or narrow-scope items have been remade to work on a greater variety of champions.

Specialization

There aren’t enough items to allow each champion to really feel like they have their own unique build. We also want to add more items that allow you to specialize for the particular game that you’re in. We’re adding items to give players in each role alternate primary builds that fill out their teams better. If your carry needs to do more AoE damage, he has an option for that. If your primary AP caster needs additional CC capabilities, there’s an option for that, too.

We want players to have a degree of specialization in terms of playstyle, and to buy items that complement that playstyle rather than simply giving them the highest raw stats.

Gold and Statistics Pass

We’ve done a complete gold and statistics pass on the entire item shop. Many statistics have been reevaluated to better reflect how much gold they are worth at a particular stage of the game. Premiums have been adjusted across many items to reflect how difficult they are to build or how niche they are, rather than their raw statistical strength. Items that grant early Resistances / Attack Damage / Attack Speed have all been reevaluated in terms of strength.

Breadth and Depth

One of the most important things we tried to accomplish during the preseason was to ensure that your mid game items didn’t pigeonhole you into certain choices later in the game. We’ve also endeavored to give mid-tier items more late game options so that you don’t run into dead-ends as the game progresses. If you build Warden’s Mail in the mid game, you shouldn’t feel compelled to buy Randuin’s Omen every game. We wanted to make sure that at each stage of item progression gave you upgrade choices later on.

We know that some of your favorite items might be affected by the coming update. I’ll be discussing many specific examples in depth leading up to the patch. If you’d like more information on a specific change, reply to the thread and I’ll answer your question if I can."
 I'm sure Xypherous will be posting a slew of information about the new items in the next few days ( or hours! ) and you can rest assured that I'll collect it all up for you and edit them into this post.

Edit: Xypherous has added one of the more specific previews early. This long post focuses on Armor penetration and discusses The Brutalizer, it's importance to Attack Damage Casters champions, and changes for Black Cleaver.
"Since lots of you were interested in diving immediately into some specific details, I've decided to bump up the first item preview post. This is posted later in the thread as well, but I thought I'd edit the OP for visibility:

Today I’m going to talk about Armor Penetration and its effects on the scaling of our Attack Damage Casters class.

Let’s take a look at one of the core items for this class – The Brutalizer:


Quote:
The Brutalizer
  • +25 Attack Damage
  • UNIQUE Passive: +10% Cooldown Reduction
  • UNIQUE Passive: +10 Armor Penetration
The Brutalizer has long been the trifecta of Attack Damage, Armor Penetration and Cooldown Reduction that these characters lean on for early game dominance. However, Flat Armor Penetration as a statistic overall has been pretty overpowered in compensation for the fact that items with the stat don’t typically scale at all into the late game. This turns these characters into early-game gambit characters, out to dominate the early game as quickly as possible before they become irrelevant.

To adjust for this, we’re making two major changes:

1. Flat Armor Penetration and % Armor Penetration values are generally being lowered, but now Flat Penetration is calculated AFTER % Penetration

For example: Let’s say I have 50% Armor Penetration and 20 Flat Armor Penetration versus a target with 120 Armor.

Currently, on Live, I would ignore 20 of his armor via Flat Penetration (100) and then 50% of the remainder, leaving him with 50 Armor.

After this change, I would ignore 50% of his armor (60) and then 20 of the remainder, leaving him with 40 armor.

In this manner, we can make sure that penetration values can be cost-effective for both late game and early game because now you have an option to synergize the two statistics together if you need to pierce large amounts of armor.

2. Brutalizer builds into more than one thing

Quote:
The Black Cleaver
  • +45 Attack Damage
  • +10% Cooldown Reduction
  • +10 Armor Penetration
  • Passive: Dealing physical damage to an enemy reduces their Armor by 5% for 6 seconds. This effect stacks up to 5 times on the same target.
Let’s dig down into this item a little more. First off, the Black Cleaver now triggers off all physical damage. This means that spells and abilities can trigger the passive. In fact, let’s look at a couple of our AD casters and see how this item works differently on them:




Pantheon, the Artisan of War

Spear Shot: Will trigger Black Cleaver once on a single target.
Aegis of Zeonia: Will not trigger Black Cleaver, as it does magic damage.
Heartseeker Strike: Will trigger Black Cleaver three times in a cone, as it does physical damage to the target three times.
Grand Skyfall: Will not trigger Black Cleaver, as it does magic damage.




Garen, the Might of Demacia

Decisive Strike: Will trigger Black Cleaver once, on a single target.
Courage: Will not trigger Black Cleaver, as it does no damage.
Judgment: Will trigger Black Cleaver up to 6 times, in a circle around him, as it does physical damage 6 times.
Demacian Justice: Will not trigger Black Cleaver, as it does magical damage.

So now, AD casters attempting to deal with highly armored opponents have a way to partially nullify the armor of targets they choose to fully commit to with all of their skills. However, they make a trade-off here; while Black Cleaver is highly effective at negating the effect of enemy armor, the Cleaver itself does not provide all that much Attack Damage as a whole. So your skills will be slightly less effective on targets with high health and low armor, simply because they’ll be doing less overall damage. Black Cleaver is incredibly effective at shredding targets with lots of armor, but doesn’t really do well trying to kill a mage with Rod of Ages, for example.

What about Last Whisper? How does this work with Last Whisper?

Last Whisper grants you % Armor Penetration while Black Cleaver reduces the opponent’s armor.

Let’s look at an enemy with 400 Armor. Black Cleaver will reduce their armor by 25%, leaving them with 300. Last Whisper will allow you to ignore 40% of the remaining 300 armor, which means their effective armor against you will now be 180.

Last Thoughts

We hope that this change helps create a smoother scaling curve for many of our AD casters without causing them to utterly dominate and kill everyone. While these changes allow them to ignore armor much more effectively, the characters in question will be making heavy tradeoffs by simply not dealing as much raw damage as they could have with a B.F. Sword build against soft targets. Additionally, these iterations of The Brutalizer and The Black Cleaver allow our more spell-focused ranged carries like Corki or Graves to have a viable alternative to Last Whisper that will give them great utility if they find themselves on a team with lot of physical damage characters.

Thanks for reading and stay tuned for more!

-Xypherous"

55 comments

  1. Cant wait to see new items! #PBE <3

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  2. Ahh so close to first :D
    But i wanna more tyme for my platinum so still good

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  3. This unfortunatly, doesn't tell us squat. Not with out showing some of the items. They have iterated this before, in various ways, but no tangible items have been shown yet. Hopefully soon

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    1. am i the only one really tired of the "heres info" headline, only to read the same thing they posted last week?

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    2. They didn't say they were reworking black cleaver last weak did they?

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    3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engrish

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  4. Good job Moobeat... please try to get as much info as you can. ^_^

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  5. Dammit, I want my janna skin and summoner icons already

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  6. http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2771527&page=11

    Teemo deleted in season 3.

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    1. joke see riot posts in thread (4th post i think)

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    2. riot will never delete any champ dont forget that

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    3. I will not allow my favorite champion to get deleted.

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  7. havent u learned yet red posts never tell us anything ever

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  8. "If your carry needs to do more AoE damage, he has an option for that."
    Triamat buff!

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    1. Triamat, the new item, it is built from Tiamat and Trinity Force = Triamat. You will now be OP.

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  9. I think summoner's rift needs a blackfire torch equivalent.

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    1. I have to agree, we don't have enough items against HP staking anyway.
      Too bad it still deals magic damage though, those kind of item are always countered by the smallest amount of MR.

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    2. should deal true damage imo. Nerf the damage dealt a little bit if it's too imba.

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  10. Item leaks weeeeeee !!!

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  11. Everyone thinking EUW is down because of the patch, sorry to disappoint you...
    LoL Status ‏@lolstatus
    EUW will go down shortly for an emergency maintenance to correct the problem. We expect the fix take up to 3 hours. Standby for updates.

    Sorry guys :'( I wanted it too

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  12. Nooooo, why riot. I loved using TBC on Twitch. Now the attack speed and flat armor reduce is gone. What a shame.

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  13. Dear Moobeat,

    As a League player, what do you feel about these changes that riot makes? I'm not looking for some crazy denunciation of their actions, I just legitimately am curious as to how this will affect your game play, do you mind? Is it a breath of fresh air?

    Just curious. c:

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  14. Xypherous added another post on his itemization thread about the update to Black Cleaver for AD Casters like Pantheon, Garen, Renekton.

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    1. will voidlings proc the new black cleaver??

      AD MALZ <3

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  15. Love @ 20 check it every morning and every night xd

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  16. Best LOL nsite out there is right here ^^
    TY for this site

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  17. Corki gatling gun + BC = your armor is destroyed

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    1. ya that's what i'm thinking this stuff sounds great for ad casters, but it seems like it wall make ranged ad even more broken than it already is. i hope riot ads in more things like " ranged attackers wont get that big of a bonus"

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    2. I doubt this would effect ranged AD carry too much. First off the effect caps at 5 stacks, and as Xyph said, buying it comes at the cost of damage items, corki might be the only AD carry getting a huge boost from this because he has that AoE Gatling gun that has potential to take down a whole teams armor down to the cap quickly, once again thoughthere are those downsides to it as well.

      Personally im curious about trying this out of Riven, AD and CDR are both good on her and with the passive stacking on all her abilities (Broken-Wings and Ki-burst being AoE, and it works with her passive :D) letting her bring both her small bits of CC AND the armor reduction to multiple targets in teamfights.

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    3. will voidlings pro the new Black Cleaver?

      AD MALZ <3

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  18. thanks for the briefing S@20, I like the change for
    The Brutalizer
    +25 Attack Damage
    UNIQUE Passive: +10% Cooldown Reduction
    UNIQUE Passive: +10 Armor Penetration
    and
    The Black Cleaver
    +45 Attack Damage
    +10% Cooldown Reduction
    +10 Armor Penetration
    Passive: Dealing physical damage to an enemy reduces their Armor by 5% for 6 seconds. This effect stacks up to 5 times on the same target.

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  19. EU WEST still says Busy anyone else??

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    1. There busy with maintenance, will be over soon though

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  20. Moobeat, you wrote "Brutilizer" at the beginning of the post in the Note section. Just pointing out a small typo.

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  21. DONT CHANGE MY BLACK CLEAVER!!! IF IT ISNT STILL GOOD ON VAYNE I SWEAR TO GOD

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    1. It may not give more attack speed, but it does mean that condemn will add the armour pen passive, and i think silver bolts will to. Plus is gives you cooldown reduction, which means spamming tumble and condemn more often C:

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  22. Could anyone please explain me why there are SO MANY guys in the lol forum asking for Talon buffs/benefits from new items?

    Talon is Currently quite well balanced, the only problem is that assasins have not place in the current metagame.

    What are they specting? to be able to kill a rammus with 400 armor and 4000 hp in just 1 skillshot?


    Cannot understand that much crying about this concrete character when there are others that need much more some balancing (sejuani, just to mention one. Have tested her this week and she is a bit underpowered, at least for me.)

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  23. There is a big discusion concerning tenacity items with Xy going on in http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2750619

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  24. they are also revealed new elaies miracle need update

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  25. The Black Cleaver changes are so good for ad casters... Too bad Darius can reach 90% armor pen now...

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    1. Think of Renekton's E with his FURY.... and 3 stacks of the cleaver with his enraged w, although it occurs to me that happened before, but also his q does it too. new BC is awesome, this'll be good for twitch too.

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