Initial Honor Results

Posted on at 12:15 PM by Moobeat
Well, it's been a little over a week since the new Honor system was pushed to live and I'm sure you've noticed players on the best behavior in an attempt to receive the prestigious "You have been honored!" notification after each game. To show just how effective Honor has been, Lyte has prepared a post showcasing just how the system has influenced previously toxic summoners.
Continue reading for the full announcement, including some interesting statics about how well the system is doing!

Here is the full post:
"It’s been over one week since we launched the Honor Initiative, one of the largest experiments ever conducted at Riot. Today, I’d like to take some time to share a few results we’ve seen, and talk a little more about how we’re preventing Honor spamming.

Honor So Far

As I mentioned before, we’ve historically reacted only to toxic behavior through systems like the Tribunal, and the Honor Initiative was our first attempt at positive reinforcement in League of Legends.

The Honor Initiative is a multi-phase experiment, and in the first phase, our goal is to see if we’re able to accurately identify the positive pillars of our community. Secondly, we hope to see if it’s possible to positively nudge “neutral” players by making it easier to be good instead of toxic. Already, we’ve seen some dramatic, global results in normal and ranked solo queue reports the past week:

  • Negative Attitude reports: -29% in normals and -11% in ranked
  • Offensive Language reports: -35% in normals and -20% in ranked
  • Verbal Abuse reports: -41% in normals -17% in ranked

Preventing Honor Abuse

One of the major concerns we took into account when designing Honor was abuse – it’s obvious this was a concern some of you shared: “Dr. Lyte, people are going to trade Honor! This is going to be meaningless!” Rest assured, Riot has spent a lot of extra time implementing anti-abuse features into the Honor Initiative. We tasked nearly half a dozen PhDs and statisticians to this problem and let them tinker with models for weeks. What did they come up with, and what’s going on in the background?

  • Pattern recognition: Honor was designed to recognize patterns. For example, Honorable players who are true positive should not be reported very often.
    • As an example, the system caught a player who was reported in 100% of his games after Honor launched, but he also got Honor in nearly every game. This obvious trader was caught.
  • Social interactions: Honor was designed to analyze interactions between players. For example, the system analyzes the players who are Honoring you and the players you give Honor to in an effort to determine the quality of these exchanges.
    • In another example, the system caught a player who received 100% of his Honor from a premade friend. Both the giver and the recipient were also toxic players and both were punished for this behavior.
  • Honor values: As mentioned above, Honor assesses the value of your exchanges. Receiving Honor from a stranger you’ve never played with before is valued more than Honor from a player who has played with you 100 times and Honored you multiple times. Design decisions like this were made to encourage players to be positive across a large number of games with a large variety of people—in fact, for the min-maxers, this is the optimal way to earn Honor.

So far, these abuse-prevention measures we built in have been highly effective:

  • Only 0.21% of players reported for consistent trading
  • 0.63% of players actively trying to trade Honor
  • 0.01% spamming Honor for dishonorable reasons

These players have all had their Honor reset to zero.

What’s next for Honor?

We’re deep into our planning for the next phase of Honor and we feel that this is just the beginning of the Honor Initiative. Even now, there’s more content to discover for the truly Honorable player! I hope players have been enjoying Honor so far, and together, let’s inspire others to be more Honorable. Let’s not only make a difference in League of Legends, let’s make a difference in online gaming."
Lyte, as usual, has been very vocal in answering player concerns about the new system. Here is a brief list of some of the more interesting or revealing replies to the results thread.
[ Which Honor is distributed the most? ]-"Currently, players Honor for Teamwork the most."
[ Which Honor is the hardest to get? ]-"The hardest Honor to get right now is Helpful."
[ On the rarity of Crests ]-"This is something we specifically took into account when designing the Honor Initiative. We never want Crests of Honor to be so common that if you don't have one, you will be shunned as a negative player. We always want Crests to be rare enough that when you do see one, they are very awesome player to play with; however, if you don't have one, it isn't impossible for you to earn one if you make a serious effort.Also, Crests can be lost if you are not continuously positive in your matches, or start being toxic and get banned by the Tribunal."
[ More details on how Crests are earned ]-"You need certain amount of Honors, but you also need a certain about of Honor 'value' which depends on who you are receiving Honor from."
[ On how many people actually have Crests ]-"Currently, about 1% of players have unlocked Crests. This number should increase over the next 3-4 weeks."
[ What happens to my honor if I am Tribunal Banned ]-" someone is banned by the Tribunal, their Honor is reset and any Crests they might have are removed."


71 comments

  1. Well, it's not working for me...

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    1. Then you sir, are a rude individual. NO HONOR FOR YOU!

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  2. its working great as far as i can tell. huge improvement in general attitude across the board.

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  3. Riot just <3 its players! Best community work online

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  4. Next prize : Honorable Teemo skin :D

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    1. Voli-Carebear skin.

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    2. ^This is awesome, please do it.

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    3. ^so many levels of happy

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    4. One hundred times this. ^

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    5. Yes!! YES!!!
      MAKE THIS WORK!!!
      VOLI-CAREBEAR FOR HONOR IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA!!!

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    6. Pedobear legendery skin!!!!!

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  5. I trt to be as polite as i can every game, even in game lobby by saying hi everytime to my team. Regardless sometimes one can´t just stand against some toxic players this initiative is making a difference in my experience so far.
    My guess is that eventually on the long run good-behavior player will separate from those who aren´t.

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    1. Do you say HI to YOUR team ??? Omg that`s so absurdly courteous that I can`t even imagine it. Instahonor, sir.

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  6. I never get honor from anyone, no matter how friendly or helpful or teamworky (is that a word?) or honorable I am. It seems like if you don't mention it to people they forget to give you honor, but if you mention it, you getting reported for spamming. It's psychology: if you are pissed at someone, you always remember to do something about it, but if you are happy you just move on and play more games.

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    1. That being said, general attitude does seem to have improved. I have had less trolling in the last few weeks, but that could just be confirmation bias. Still want my damn ribbon for carrying, though.

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    2. try this: good teammate does a good job/is friendly during a match, say towards the end of the match that you are going to give them honour for being a good player. They, as a response will also honour you. I personally give honour, sometimes all across the board if the team is cohesive, or a truly gg

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    3. I try to. Even when I am playing mostly premades, I don't honor my friends unless they were being, well, honorable. My one friend can lose his temper when things go badly too easily. I rarely honor him. Another guy is generally near silent, but he shows up to team fights, donates buffs, makes the right calls, etc. to help the team rather than just himself. I honor him a fair bit.

      I was already one of those "glhf" carebears before this though, so you can see where I'm coming from. Also, if there was an honorable Voli-carebear skin, I'd play it. Because it would be AWESOME.

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    4. I don't know what to tell you. I don't usually say much at all to the players in game (I vent with partial premades most of the time, all I usually do is type out mias) and I've gotten 3-4 teamwork and friendly and about 7 honorable opponents. Maybe you just haven't gotten lucky and you've been stuck with a bunch of me's. I generally don't give out honor unless I feel like someone has gone above and beyond here, i.e. my lane opponent acknowledges something cool I did, even if it killed him. Just keep being you, and you'll get them eventually.

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    5. And how exactly are you friendly or "teamworky" ? I use to give advice people in my games if I see them doing mistakes and it works quite fine so far, I`ve got a fair number of teamwork points. From my experience, discussing in after-game lobby (who played well, who fell behind and how could he prevent it etc.) also helps.

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    6. ^Of course, by giving advice I don`t mean "OMG stop feeding", but rather "They are too ahead, we can`t contest them at the moment. Let`s stay defensive and wait for ganks/late game" ot sth like that.

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    7. I've found that if you tell them at the vey end you honored them they honor you

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  7. Just amazing, i have the medal Honorable opponent, and today, i see i have no honor, i can't undrestand that. Okay, report and other... but if it's to take a reset every 2 weeks, it's bad.

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    1. it doesn't reset. Lyte said you have keep BEING honored CONSTANTLY to keep the ribbon.

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    2. He said he has no honor at all, which would be very weird if he is not banned at the same time

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    3. Getting warnings will strip you off too, not just bans.

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  8. i feel that the honor system has turned people into honor whores ... if i'm pissed at my team i'll still rip their heads of.. like.. who cares about a badge... what i mean to say is: i prefer to be a douche sometimes than to be fake just for the sake of virtual scooby snacks.

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    1. If you don`t want it, don`t go for it. But there are people who actually like being nice to others and dislike ripping their heads of (i.e. me).

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  9. btw.. no news what so ever on the new champ? i thought they should've brought the sneak peek up by now. i know they're probably delaying it because of the finals.. but finals are on the 11'th (i think...)

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  10. i got over 20 honor except for helpfull but i still don't have a ribbon? I don't get it....

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    1. it depends on how many games you play toget those 20.
      20 in 100 does not count the same as 20 in 30

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    2. It would be interesting to see what honor ratios do people with ribbon have. I am regularly receiving about one teamwork point per game for about 3 days and I wonder if keeping this trend would ever give me one :P

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    3. just got 2 ribbons both on 25 honor points

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  11. I still have at least one acid pool a day I report.

    I want RESULTS!!!

    Honor Guard skin series?
    Or better yet have your character radiate an aura of blue/green/yellow/red depending on if you have one of those honor ribbons.
    Because glowing red godzilla cho'gath pushing yo mid!

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    1. Wanting reward is not honourable.

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    2. Since the day the honor was introduced, I have reported only 1 (one) person overall. For me, the change is overwhelming, but maybe this also depends on your server and matchups level ?

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    3. Well of they will improve this i will be kinda shiny since i already own 2 ribbons( red and green) having 50 points in TW and 55 in HO... I am more helpfull than "teamworky" but people rarely gives helpfull..That i have only 20... -J├╣mpy-

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    4. Well they said there is ever more content to discover for the honorable, just wondering aloud what content might be.

      But seriously, imagine it, your whole team is in mid, knowing the enemy team is about to push, and then, full stack Cho'Gath comes tearing up through your minions, with a wicked red glowing aura around him courtesy of his honorable opponent ribbon. Cue pants messing.
      :DDD

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    5. This could be confused with the aura from the elixirs or whatever they're called =/

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    6. If you play ranked you will not notice the difference as much. If you read the above article and the stats within, it's normals that were affected the most by the honour system.

      Probably because people have fun playing normals...

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    7. ^ I agree with the last anonymous. How bout if they put some kind of thing over your badge during game to indicate which ribbon you have? Not as cool as the aura thing, i know, but still.

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    8. You actually have a pretty good idea lol. Anyhow, we will see what riot does about it. Afterall, they said they aren't done with this system ;)

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  12. the honor abuse preventing toll just sucks.

    Have been playing for the hole week and in some games I achieved some honor points... and now riot says that I Do not deserve it?...

    Not cool.

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  13. I play about 2 to 5 games per day.

    My typical role is support, so most of the time I'm doing typical supporty things. Buying wards, oracles, and saving people -- saved people 4 times in one game. Didn't receive any honor that game.
    I keep my chat to a minimum ("mia", "np", "/all gg") and rely on pinging the path of the enemy.

    This system, it's not working for me.

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    1. No wonder. You are doing your job... and nothing else.

      I main supports as well, and I do TALK to people - advice my carry how to set up our lane, suggest my team when to (not) make a teamfight, and so on. And yes, I do get honor points (especially teamwork ones).

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    2. Regardless, of whether you're being honoured or not, it should be more important that you know you're being a positive member of the community rather than a negative one. In time, you may be honoured, but just be consistent and work hard, don't let the medals be a driving force as to why you want to be a helpful player.

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    3. ^ And why couldn`t medals be a driving force to better behaviour ? They were designed to be so. The whole motivation thing is always complex for every human being, but the final result matters anyway.

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  14. I'm enthralled to hear of the positive results from the system already. I hope that Riot continues to further improve and expand upon positive feedback systems like this.

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  15. U ppl are funny: The system is working, ppl just don't give u honor cuz they don't give a crap sometimes, you must be over the edge to get that honor. Each support can be so active as u said, but I as a support try to guide the team as I can focus on other things and deduce stuff, I got 3 teamwork reports from one ranked game cuz I was "the one in charge" even if I was mere support.

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  16. Interesting numbers... I been wondering how "effective" it was. I hope this trend of good behavior continues and doesn't fade. I guess only time will tell...

    Good job to all who continue to be good players in game play and behavior! Cheers to you! ^_^

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  17. This trend will end when the people that troll and beeing harsh to teammates finds out that its only a shitty ribbon as a reward for it.
    If u want this trend to continue, get the rewards up!

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  18. I can say this much, I tried to get as much honor as I could by being polite in a game. Was actually the most fun I've had in a game ever. And we even lost O:

    That's all on my part, IMO worth it.

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  19. im afraid to give me friend honor every game i play with him. if well get reported for trading :/ so i havent given him any....

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    1. u can give him some but he wont get a ribbon so fast of he gets always honor from the same person

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    2. So long as neither of you are reported in the same game, you should be fine

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  21. This was such an amazing idea from riot. The community is just cleaning itself up

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  22. For me it has not worked because practically all my allies in queues only play qualifying for honors and playing lousy, starting yesterday in a food support another team as he could and will report asked me for something I did that was not feed my opponent in the main street, and in the end when we lost chat it said "please please give me an honor" and this guy was dedicated only feed the other team, and not playing by ELO, but plays for honors . This is bad for those who are interested in raising our Elo.

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    1. First off, is that English? Second, the honour system hasn't had as dramatic of an effect in ranked then normals. Most likely due to the pressure of "raising our ELO".

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  23. My little soraka skin for 100 honor in all categories please

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  24. I still get a lot, and I mean that, A LOT of afk's and ragequiters even with all this honor thing.

    I also saw some guy with a honor ribbon and he was a dick, going all like "noob, l2p" to everyone on the /all. Not nice.

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